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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 11, 2014 6:32pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: tuning and knoodling

Did they? I swear, listening to the music in its taped/digital form has distorted things for me. What I remember involves, as you say, lots of interminable breaks wherein the band stands there, tunes, members vanish, they tune some more. On tape it all runs together, though. Somehow what I recall as long, long minutes of nothing don't end up captured and then I wonder if I'm right.

Basically I remember lots of waiting when I saw them fairly often (late 70s/early 80s), and then when I saw them in the early '90s after a gap, that's not part of what I remember. Which doesn't mean much; memory can be wrong, things stick or don't stick, whatever. But DID it change?

Anyway ............. I now tend to think, like UJ, that from the band's perspective it was partly that they did a ton of shows and were basically just there playing all evening, and we the fans were "in their living room" ... they started out living-room style with the acid tests and they always had a big element of "family" around, I guess, so it was partly a show and partly a jam session or just some guys playing, and it just stayed that way. Maybe a coping strategy for them, in part. Less pressure to be perfect; a way to stay humble and not be "rock stars;" a way to keep having your smoke breaks and beers; all of the above.

From the fans' perspective -- well, as others have said, it was a point of pride for me that MY band didn't jump around in skin-tight leopard suits or come out pumping their fists in the air a la Spinal Tap and go "Hello Fill-in-the-Blank!" MY band just stood there. A lot. When they played, and when they didn't. And there was a lot of "didn't," and I swear THAT was a point of pride, too. Probably if Jerry had worn a flower pot on his head, that would have been a point of pride. Whatever they did was going to be taken as proof that THIS band is different and thus better :-)


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Poster: Mooding Date: Jun 16, 2014 12:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: tuning and knoodling

re: "Did they? I swear, listening to the music in its taped/digital form has distorted things for me. What I remember involves, as you say, lots of interminable breaks wherein the band stands there, tunes, members vanish, they tune some more. On tape it all runs together, though. Somehow what I recall as long, long minutes of nothing don't end up captured and then I wonder if I'm right."

You are right. It seems to me that LOTS of the between song time has been eliminated, my guess is that this occurred when digitization happened. I recall listening to plenty of cassettes (they're all still upstairs in the closet) with seemingly interminable (minutes!) between songs. I miss that.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Jun 16, 2014 2:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: tuning and knoodling

Plus presumably tapers pressed "stop." I doubt many would just let their tapes roll during the, er, Dead time. So that cut it drastically, and then the minutes when the tape was rolling but nothing really happened -- noodle, pause, noodle, oh look they're going to start!, pause, I guess not, noodle noodle -- got cut with digitization.